» Anti-PETA

You’re my hero

mine too

actually Maddox is my hero your just a copycatt

Hey, I included the link— I think it’s pretty obvious that the idea came from some one else. All I claim to have done was find it. :)

Hmm I think your right

I, myself am not completly aginst animal rights.

I mean, I will eat animal meat a meal but I’d give a pet the love and care it desreves.

All these attacks you think would spark some kinda of investigation. Penn and Teller Bullshit on Showtime is the the only place anywhere that i have seen this topic openly laied out. I would love to see this terrorist group go down. sorry if there are any miss spellings. My spelling is not to good.

                            -The ANTI PETA

PS. they should al go to jail for tryion to steal away our rights or at least hell for being so hypocritical.

It’s your choice to meat but don’t pick on those who don’t…

*eat meat

I hardly think I’m picking on vegetarians as a whole, just the radically crazy subgroup know as PETA. I think this just proves the point that fanaticism in any form is bad. Fanatical Christians = Waco, TX— fanatical Muslims = 9/11— fanatical vegetarians = PETA.

In this way, I think Buddhism has an important teaching: exist as the opposite of all extremes.

pick on those who dont??!! wait a sec those peta assholes are the ones who have the goal of total animal liberation….that means they are going to make you do what they think is right.NO choices just what they want .they dont care about animals they hate dogs cats and any other domestic animal and wish them extinct.well you ask what do they care about then?Controling you and me…they my friends are nazi pigs and need to dealt with as such.

YOU ALL ARE BUNCH OF NO GOOD IDIOTS AND LOSERS! THAT MADDOX GUY IS A LOAD OF B/S! AND DON’T BE PISSED AT ME I’M JUST SPEAKING MY MIND AND THATS WHAT THESE PSOTS R FOR RIGHT!

Hey, we can all speak our minds— and I think you are just a coward by posting your seeming flamebait anonymously.

“I think the fools in PETA have gone off the moral deep end. Their latest stunt was dangling dead animals around some opening in NYC.”

Why is that off the moral deep end? People see dead animals all the time on their plates. Why are you claiming that you will eat three animals for every animal PETA saves? Do you think that animals should be used as tools to get your message across?

“I, myself am not completly aginst animal rights.

I mean, I will eat animal meat a meal but I’d give a pet the love and care it desreves.”

Why are pets more deserving of rights than farm animals?

These are not rhetorical questions, I seriously want to know the anwers. Hopefully they will be addressed in the next post on this site.

Well, your questions may not be rhetorical, but they are certainly very subjective. Here goes:

“Why is that off the moral deep end?”— Without getting too philosophical, I believe we each have a personal level of morality. For example, I may not feel morally obligated to give money to panhandlers, but I will give money to PBS. Somewhere between the “moralness” of those two decisions lies my morality level. Because this is my site, littered with my opinions; I feel it is implied that I feel dangling dead animal carcasses is off the moral deep end.

“Why are you claiming that you will eat three animals for every animal PETA saves?” You are mixing your references there. The original Maddox sign was in response to militant vegetarians. I think PETA is way beyond mere vegetarianism. So, as a lover of grilled animal flesh, I am sponsoring a vegetarian friend of mine by eating three times as much meat as the friend doesn’t eat. Thereby undoing my friend’s vegetarianism if you are keeping a global count of animals eaten/not eaten. Of course, this is really moot because the friend in question doesn’t eat animal flesh for flavor reasons more so than moral reasons. The friend also eats fish, which is pure hypocrisy from a moral standpoint. But what can ya do? Fanatically militant vegans are hard to come by in my circle of friends.

Your third reference is to a post on my site not from me, but I believe it anyway. Consider the Inhalmiut Indians (or Eskimos) from northern Canada: In their version of the beginning of time, woman gave birth to dogs, in order that man would have a servant and friend. I think it’s implied that dogs were both pets and friends and had more rights than the deer which the Inhalmiut ate almost exclusively. And this is from a people whose closeness with mother earth was a lot more recent and enduring than any other group in the history of North America.

I am a beekeeper who hates PETA worse that kidney stones. My site can show you how much I hate them and why.

Wow! That “Why Honey is Not Vegan” article is some pretty far-out stuff. “Bee slaves”, yeah right. You’re a beekeeper, can you force your bees to attack? Can you make them fly in formation? I doubt it, and if you could, you’d make millions on Stupid Pet Tricks on Letterman. I feel your pain man— I believe the more animals we kill and consume (not just kill for non-edible reasons), the more power we have in the afterlife; so I’ll be whoopin’ some pale and pasty vegan butt. BTW, honey, along with peanut butter, is one of the only reasons bread should exist in my book.

Didn’t the start of the human race eat meat? (The cave people.) I guess that Eve ate an apple, but who knows. It is each person’s right to eat meat or not. People that tie themselves to trees need a new hobby. I always thought that PETA stood for: Please Extract The Asshole. Caoi, brother Kelly. :o)

I need to make a shirt that says “PETA People Eating Tasty Animals” then on the back just to piss peta people off,put the quote about how they wouldnt care if there was a cure for AIDs if an animal was used for the testing.Hey fuckers at PETA heres an idiea,why not submit your worthless lives to the testing,maybe something good would come out of your lives.Worthless fucking people those peta people,err I mean terrorists.Tom Ridge know about these guys??

Perhaps instead of reiterating anti-peta rhetoric you’ve found on biased websites, seen on biased tv shows or heard from biased friends, you should learn to do some of your own research.

Research and find out exactly what goes into animal testing and animal farming. Animal rights groups (including PETA) exist because people have done this in depth research. People put aside their ignorance, denial and selfishness to see the truth that is only there if they look.

After educating yourself on one matter it is only natural to educate yourself on all matters and realize the inequity throughout our world. This enlightenment brings much pain but also much joy because you realize that however small your contribution, you as a single person can alleviate some suffering. Whether it is choosing not to drive a car, not to use animal products, not to support unequal trade, etc there is something that each of us can do to reduce the suffering of someone/something on this earth.

Buddhism was mentioned in one of these posts and I believe that many Buddhists principles should apply to our daily lives. Buddhism teaches compassion and compassion is something that every human should possess. It is in our power and our power alone that we can reduce the suffering of animals and people throughout the world, through enlightened compassion. It is time that we all cultivate a little selflessness and rid ourselves of this ignorance and denial that surrounds us.

Animals die for us. But more importantly, many suffer for us. Most farm animals do not romp about in the fields before they come to our grocery stores, freshly wrapped in plastic. Most spend their whole lives in tiny enclosures, wallowing in their own filth. Is this natural? Perhaps, only because it has been our way for millenia, it is natural for humans to feed on animals but it is never natural to cause undue suffering.

The actions of an organization or of individuals should not be the basis for our own beliefs. Each of us should be aware of the consquences of our daily lives and act to change our lives so that the consequences lessen the suffering.

If you want to eat meat, why not buy only free range meat. That means that the animals have not spent their lives imprisoned, being fed chemicals to accelerate growth. Spay or neuter your pets so that more unwanted animals are not brought into this world to die unwanted and unloved in shelters. Use less energy so that less waste is produced. Buy food that is not overly packaged so that, again, less waste is produced. Buy things like fair trade coffee so that people in third world countries are paid fairly for their labour and are more capable of supporting themselves. Refuse to buy clothing and products that are made by corporations that exploit people. The list goes on and on of simple things we can do that will help those around us. The things we do here in the western world affect people globally and it is really time that we all became aware of and responsible for the consequences of our living.

Find out what the consequences are and truthfully ask yourself if you can continue doing something that causes so much pain. We have the power to make the world a better place and it is time that we exercise that power.

Wow! Long rebuttal! Once again I am amazed that this thread, of all the other stuff on my blog, is the one that really polarizes people. Sure Buddhism teaches compassion, but that’s farther down the list of priorities from that particular belief system. A few of the more major tenets are:

— Impermanence: Nothing lasts forever. Not man, not animal, not earth, not ideas, or ideals. Nothing. This can be seen in the Buddhist practice of creating incredibly time-consuming and ornate works of art out of sand called mandalas. Upon completion, these works of art are ruined and allowed to fall asunder in a testament of impermanence. Given some of the doctrines specified by PETA’s actions and statements on their website, PETA is at odds with the idea of impermanence.

— The middle road: One should not be extreme, but the opposite of all extremes. Obviously, as a group seeking increasingly extreme measures of making their points, PETA doctrine is also at odds with this tenet. I would state that here compassion is the absence of pure love and pure animosity. Indeed the Latin roots are “pat” to suffer and “com” together. Personally, when I consider humankind as an animal among all the other animals, I do think we all suffer together— whether beef to be eaten roams free or not.

i think people shouldnt waste THEIR LIVES worring about ANIMALS but instead worry about people

I think it might be better not to jump on the IHATEPETA bandwagon but to search for information for yourselves.

Misleading results from animal tests have killed millions of people worldwide, would you go to the vet to get your medicine?

Vioxx which was safe in animals - “Merck is facing a mass of Vioxx lawsuits. It withdrew the drug last year after a study found it may double the risk of heart attack or stroke.”

I dont rely on either side to give me my information I get it for myself.

I do believe in animal rights. We are afterall animals ourselves.

I definatley dont use religion as a basis for anything, allthough you can learn from religion.

Chris

In regard to the comment on the Inhalmiut….please read Farley Mowat’s “People of the Deer”…it was never suggested that the people felt that the caribou had any more “rights” than any other living being…’rights” as our culture see them were vastly different to them…and the People only took what they needed, as well as using absolutely everything from the caribou, right down to the bone marrow,as opposed to our extremely wasteful, cruel and inhumane practices….